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[personal profile] regshoe
I have not been brilliantly attentive to my last few books due to the whole 'new obsession' situation, but here they are anyway:

Bagthorpes v. the World by Helen Cresswell (1979). Picked up from a box of random free stuff left outside someone's house to be got rid of. The Bagthorpe saga (this is the fourth of ten books; I correctly guessed it wouldn't be sufficiently continuity-heavy to need reading in order) seems to be basically a wacky 70s sitcom in book form, featuring the adventures of a variously eccentric middle-class English family. In this book financial worries lead them to attempt to become self-sufficient, while they also have to manoeuvre for an inheritance from the eccentric great-aunt and deal with the five-year-old cousin's dedication to her 'death and funerals' phase. It's funny but not brilliant; it made decent enough reading during stressful travelling, which is what I did, but I won't seek out the rest of the series.

King Lear by William Shakespeare (c. 1606). Whenever I watch or read a Shakespeare play I enjoy the brilliant intricacies of language while probably missing about 90% of them, and then decide I'll have to think about it for a bit before forming proper opinions. Perhaps I should have watched a performance before reading; my mother has recommended the film with Laurence Olivier, and I will watch it at some point but see above re. I can only watch one thing at the moment. As it is, I thought the tragic ending was beautiful ('And my poor fool is hanged. No, no, no life!/Why should a dog, a horse, a rat have life/And thou no breath at all? Thou'lt come no more/Never, never, never, never, never.'— ;__; ), and I was interested to read in R. A. Foakes's introduction to the Arden edition that a) while, as usual with Shakespeare's plays, the story of King Lear was a previously existing one which he adapted, his ending is different from that of the previous versions and b) between the late seventeenth and mid-nineteenth centuries virtually all productions used a rewritten/bowdlerised version of the play which replaced Shakespeare's ending with a happier one. Clearly the ending is an important matter! I was also puzzled by a passage where Shakespeare uses the word 'choughs' and Foakes says in a footnote that it means 'jackdaws': the scene is set on the cliffs of Dover so I thought it seemed likely that Shakespeare did mean choughs (Pyrrhocorax pyrrhocorax), but Wikipedia, citing Mark Cocker and Richard Mabey who are probably reliable sources for this sort of thing, agrees that 'chough' formerly meant 'jackdaw' (Coloeus monedula). But that's also puzzling because I have heard both birds and it seems to me obvious that 'chough' is better onomatopoeia for P. pyrrhocorax and 'jack' for C. monedula. Hmmm.

Metal from Heaven by August Clarke (2024). Set in a world undergoing a fantasy Industrial Revolution based on ichorite, a mysterious substance which causes a mysterious disease in the children of people who work with it; our narrator Marney Honeycutt (which rather inappropriately reminded me of Lucy Honeychurch) is one of the first to be afflicted, and also her entire family were massacred when the owner of the factory where they worked decided to put down a strike the really thorough way when Marney was twelve. She escapes and ends up being adopted by a gang of bandits who've made themselves an amazing socialist bandit paradise by murdering a local aristocratic ruler, pretending to all the other aristocrats that he's just really reclusive and taking over his house and land; meanwhile Marney plots how she's going to get revenge on that factory owner. Also, almost everyone is a lesbian. I thought various parts of the plot probably wouldn't stand up to thorough scrutiny, and there were some seriously questionable decisions made (e.g., if your entire plan for the future of your bandit paradise depends on the continued survival of one person, I think you can not let her go out on highly dangerous bandit raids, actually); I found the language often careless and sometimes jarringly modern for the fantasy Industrial Revolution; most of the sex scenes made no emotional sense to me (I don't want to overstate this as a flaw, I'm sure it was important and meaningful for the author and for the right kind of readers, but I was not one of them). However, I did like the book on the whole, and I think it's very good, largely for two reasons: 1) the worldbuilding is thoughtful and really interesting, especially in portraying a range of different religions, views of the world, naming systems and concepts of sexuality and gender, and in how these things vary by class; and in the eventual discovery of what ichorite really is; and 2) it is absolutely committed to being exactly what Clarke wants it to be, no holding back at all, and I respect them for that. Also the way it's narrated, with Marney speaking in first person to a specific other character, is great and used to good effect, and the ending is weird and amazing. I did guess the first big twist as soon as we found out the relevant backstory fact about the character in question, but I had no idea what was coming next.

I've just collected a 600 page book on the history of ballet from the library, so that's something more relevant to read next.

Date: Jun. 21st, 2025 10:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
my mother has recommended the film with Laurence Olivier

I also recommend it, but mostly because I love John Hurt so much as the Fool.

I have not yet read Metal from Heaven, but from character and place names I osmosed that it uses the Etruscans as a substrate for its worldbuilding and nobody does that, so I'm looking forward.

Date: Jun. 22nd, 2025 09:48 pm (UTC)
sovay: (I Claudius)
From: [personal profile] sovay
John Hurt as the Fool sounds great. I'll look forward to it!

I look forward to your thoughts!

Oh, does it? I know almost nothing about the Etruscans and didn't recognise them, that's interesting. Many of the names seemed like just real modern names, including a few of the place names, somewhat confusingly (Montrose, Royston?).

To be fair, Bellona may be a generally queer tip of the hat to Delany, but it was originally an Etruscan city like Cisra and Veltuna. Names like Uthste, Prumathe, Ramtha are all Etruscan—the first two are mythological-heroic, the other belongs to a sarcophagus I used to visit at the MFA. I gather it was one of a number of cultures that went into the mix, but it got my attention. ("Thu" and "zel" are actually the cardinal numbers one and two.)
Edited Date: Jun. 22nd, 2025 09:49 pm (UTC)

Date: Jun. 21st, 2025 02:55 pm (UTC)
sanguinity: woodcut by M.C. Escher, "Snakes" (Default)
From: [personal profile] sanguinity
We had no idea there were ten Bagthorpe books! [personal profile] grrlpup (who bonded to the first three in childhood, then read more later) thinks the fourth book is one of the weaker ones, and I'd agree (I came to them after college, via her introducing them to me). Books one and two are brilliant in our opinion: quite a few ideas/motifs/incidents from them have become our shared shorthand for describing various elements of society and the people in it. That said, we also had a close friend who bounced violently from the first one, so opinions vary.

Date: Jun. 21st, 2025 10:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] phantomtomato
It’s so cool that you found an interesting book for free in your neighborhood. The little free libraries around me are mostly parenting books and picture books, so I’m envious of your find! Even if it was just all right. :)

Lesbian Lucy Honeychurch running with a bandit gang would go a long way towards making her a bit more interesting, haha. It sounds like that was a good read! Sometimes I enjoy more a book that had a good deal of flaws/not-for-me elements because I stop taking the reading so seriously.

Date: Jun. 22nd, 2025 07:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] genarti
Fully agreed about Metal from Heaven, both its flaws (there's a lot of it where the iddiness is a load-bearing part of the plot scaffolding, I think, and if it doesn't resonate with one's particular id then it's easy to see how little sense people's actions make) and how impressively fun it is despite them. I respected it a lot, and enjoyed myself thoroughly, and still spent the entire sexy house party section going "yes yes this is all very sexy or whatever, sure, but when did you last EAT??" Ah well. I totally agree about the narration and the ending! And it did that rare trick where an impending reveal became increasingly obvious, and yet rather than going OH COME ON NOW at the page, I could fully believe that the POV character's own issues were preventing her from even thinking of the possibility of such a reveal.

Date: Jun. 23rd, 2025 11:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] garonne

Bagthorpes! I love that series. (But it is true that once you've read one, you've read them all. I've read several, but I'm not even sure whether I've read the one you mention, or just another in the series with a similar plot.)

Metal from Heaven very much sounds worth checking out.

Date: Jun. 23rd, 2025 08:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] osprey_archer
I was fascinated to learn that pre-Shakespeare King Lear had a happy ending, and then Shakespeare wrote it with one of the unhappiest endings in the world, and now that's pretty much supplanted the original ending. It's just interesting how some stories will go through a period where there are multiple endings that audiences will accept (King Lear in the 19th century, or Swan Lake now, could go either happy or tragic) and then sometimes settle down to one and if you do anything else the audience will consider it a cheat.

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